Discuss the Kanzius effect and desalination

[Olin Spar]

If you take (a lot) of electricity and use it to make radio waves, and
you use those radio waves to create the Kanzius effect in salt water,
you will liberate hydrogen from the salt water; and the hydrogen will
burn.
When the hydrogen burns, (presumably drinkable) water is generated as
a product of combustion.
Therefore, what goes in is a lot of electricity. What comes out, among
other things, is heat and drinking water.
The value of the heat plus the value of the fresh water MAY equal or
exceed the value of the electricity consumed.
Discuss!

[Poutnik]

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Post by Olin Spar
If you take (a lot) of electricity and use it to make radio waves, and
you use those radio waves to create the Kanzius effect in salt water,
you will liberate hydrogen from the salt water; and the hydrogen will
burn.
When the hydrogen burns, (presumably drinkable) water is generated as
a product of combustion.
Therefore, what goes in is a lot of electricity. What comes out, among
other things, is heat and drinking water.
The value of the heat plus the value of the fresh water MAY equal or
exceed the value of the electricity consumed.
Discuss!

I guess there are more efficient ways
how to produce both heat and fresh water.

Using electricity as pure kind of energy
to produce heat energy as energy final stadium is waste,
not talking about effeciency of electricity production.

Reverse osmose or nanotechnology based electroosmose
is much more effective in water production.

[Poutnik]

Post by Poutnik
I guess there are more efficient ways
how to produce both heat and fresh water.
Using electricity as pure kind of energy
to produce heat energy as energy final stadium is waste,
not talking about effeciency of electricity production.

Unless I want to use electricity for low temperature heating,
using heat energy redistributing thermal pumps.

[Olin Spar]

So it might work in theory, but it is not efficient. Hmm. One variable
is the market value of potable water.

[Poutnik]

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Post by Olin Spar
So it might work in theory, but it is not efficient. Hmm. One variable
is the market value of potable water.

Simply destilled water would be cheaper,
and water from osmose based technologies much cheaper.

[Olin Spar]

Don't forget startup costs - osmosis technologies are reportedly very
expensive to build.

[Poutnik]

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Post by Olin Spar
Don't forget startup costs - osmosis technologies are reportedly very
expensive to build.

I would not say so, they are widely used.
needed microwave equipment would be more expensive.

[Olin Spar]

I don't see how liberating hydrogen from salt water can possibly take
less energy than boiling salt water (to make distilled water).
Therefore, it seems likely that the Kanzius effect -- because it
requires the liberation of hydrogen from salt water – will always be
an inefficient way to produce potable water from salt water.

[Sci Tech]

One more thing to add to the cost, if this water is meant for drinking,
you need to compensate for the salt lost in the operation. Many bottled
water manufacturers are using RO, they add salt in their final product,
otherwise, water is not pleasant to drink.

I agree with Poutnik, RO or simple distillation appear to be cost
effective. However, any new technology is welcome but perhaps cannot be
introduced in the market unless it is known to be cost effective or at
least introduces a new advantage with slight increase in cost.

SK

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Post by Olin Spar
So it might work in theory, but it is not efficient. Hmm. One variable
is the market value of potable water.

Simply destilled water would be cheaper,
and water from osmose based technologies much cheaper.