Discussion:
More Defamation From Mark A. Kukucka (was: 2008 Pittcon Editor's Awards)
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Mark Thorson
2008-04-02 21:21:14 UTC
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You guys (Mark Thorson, Our Buddy George, Sam Adams, Sam Adamson, M.A.
Sonjariv) are real LOSERS hellbent on a vendetta. You guys read headers
when you want too and ignore them when it doesn't support your feeble
cause. If (and that's a large leap), Kukucka did post the original
note, then explain why he's in Amsterdam (posting IP address) versus
the local public library? Now you want to point to anonymizers from the
Netherlands. Why do you cower so oh Buddy George? Are you using those
same anonymizers? Why not tell us who you really are or are you fearful
of a defamatory lawsuit like that served on Mark Thorsen?
You're not fooling anybody, Mark. Your smear campaign
against your former employers is so transparently
obvious, no matter how many fake aliases you create.

Is it any wonder that you're completely unemployable?
A company would have to be totally nuts to hire
somebody with your history.
u***@yahoo.com
2008-04-03 02:27:07 UTC
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To whoever is engaged in these anonymous attacks against Dr. Kukucka,
you make yourselves look like the Taliban who constantly move from
hideout to hideout while attacking US soldiers in Afghanistan. You
also sound like henchmen doing Shimadzu's dirty work. Does Shimadzu
employ you? It makes me wonder. Shimadzu wouldn't be the first nor
last corporation to engage in such disgusting work if true. You need
to cut your nails and ask yourselves some basic questions: 1) are
these anonymous attacks helping your cause, 2) are these anonymous
attacks helping Shimadzu's bottom line, 3) is your anonymity a
guaranteed thing? I think "not" to all three questions. The FBI always
find those kids calling in bomb threats to their local schools.
Somebody, with little effort, could find your smelly asses too. I
wouldn't buy anything from Shimadzu knowing what I now know
particularly after considering the ruthless ways you (and maybe
Shimadzu) have trashed someone anonymously. If you had any spines, you
wouldn't be hiding like the Taliban behind rocks along the
mountainside. The mere fact that some of your writings mention trying
to get Dr. Kukucka fired while also trying to deny future employment
speaks volumes. There is no doubt in my mind that a court would reward
substantial punitive damages to Dr. Kukucka just like the courts are
doing where Dr. Steven J. Hatfill's reputation is concerned. Which
office does Dr. Kukucka go to to get his reputation back? A fair
question I think. A Medline search indicates that Dr. Kukucka is well
published distinguished scientist. He didn't become a scientist, with
no less than two doctoral degrees I might add, by chance. You call him
a lunatic but what do you think it makes yourselves look like when you
respond to his supposed posts? I gotta tell you that you look more
luny than he does when responding to a so-called lunatic. And I don't
believe for a second that he would waste his time giving you the time
of day. He surely has better things to do, and so should yourselves,
unless you really are certifiable lunatics who have nothing better to
do than to attack relentlessly like employed corporate bullies while
scurrying to cover your cowardly tracks. None of you have ever
presented a shread of evidence that Dr. Kukucka is responsible for any
of this monkey business concerning Shimadzu. It's poppycock that
you've concocted in your feeble minds and authored anonymously. And
then you quote this luny crap in future posts thinking it's now part
of the scientific method. It's not. What does it say about Shimadzu
that they advertise on Craigslist.com to find a Mass Spec scientist? I
would expect to find a call girl on Craigslist before I'd ever find a
scientist. Besides, I'd have to wonder about Shimadzu a lot if they
did hire someone from Craigslist. And to you who claim to have or use
Shimadzu instrumentation, please share your peer-reviewed papers with
all of us. Dr. Kukucka seems to have already done that. And many from
around the world have quoted his research in their own works. Now it's
your turn. And I'm not talking about another cowardly attack from the
henchmen who are masquerading like terrorists in this newsgroup.
jerry warner
2008-04-09 04:42:01 UTC
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this is crazy... take it elsewhere?
Post by Mark Thorson
You guys (Mark Thorson, Our Buddy George, Sam Adams, Sam Adamson, M.A.
Sonjariv) are real LOSERS hellbent on a vendetta. You guys read headers
when you want too and ignore them when it doesn't support your feeble
cause. If (and that's a large leap), Kukucka did post the original
note, then explain why he's in Amsterdam (posting IP address) versus
the local public library? Now you want to point to anonymizers from the
Netherlands. Why do you cower so oh Buddy George? Are you using those
same anonymizers? Why not tell us who you really are or are you fearful
of a defamatory lawsuit like that served on Mark Thorsen?
You're not fooling anybody, Mark. Your smear campaign
against your former employers is so transparently
obvious, no matter how many fake aliases you create.
Is it any wonder that you're completely unemployable?
A company would have to be totally nuts to hire
somebody with your history.
tocopherol
2008-04-09 14:16:07 UTC
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Who would know better about libelous/defamatory attacks and lawsuits
then you Mr. Mark Robert Thorson!

The lawsuit was dismissed by plaintiff Belfort and Kukucka didn't have
to print a formal retraction like you did (Mark Robert Thorson) when
Cell Tech sued your defamatory lying ass for libel and you lost the
case. How much did it cost you Mr. Mark Robert Thorson? There was
absolutely no basis, truth or credence to plaintiff Belfort's wild
allegations regarding Kukucka.... you obviously didn't read the court
file! BTW: Don't you still owe attorney fees to someone Mark Robert
Thorson: http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/snake-oil.htm

What you (Mark Robert Thorson) neglected to report was that Plaintiff
Belfort sued Kukucka in retaliation as defendant Kukucka filed
whistleblower case(s) with several federal agencies including the FAA
IG's office regarding criminal wrongdoing by Belfort Instrument
Company (specifically fraud against shareholders under SOX 2002 and
offering gratuities & other gifts to federal employees while seeking
federal
approvals/contracts).

Make sure you get it right Mr. Mark Robert Thorson and STOP
propagating LIES!

http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Misc/misc.health.alternative/2005-12/msg00142.html
"Nothing I said about the algae was a lie or false."
When in fact, one individual, namely Mark Robert Thorson was
responsible for a great deal of miscommunication regarding anatoxin-a,
information which is still accessible on many Internet sites. Cell
Tech sued Mark Robert Thorson for posting defamatory statements about
Cell Tech, its products and its personnel to various
Internet or Usenet news groups. Cell Tech's lawsuit against Mr. Mark
Robert Thorson has now been settled and included a settlement
agreement.

Here's Luny Mark Robert Thorson's penned public retraction after he
lost his
case: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.nutrition/msg/3f44b3e07f6a3bb6

Dictionary definitions for the benefit of Mark Thorson:

Mis-state - to state incorrectly : give a false account of
False - intentionally untrue
Lie - untrue with intent to deceive

n.b. Mark Thorson's name and reputation is synonymous with "to mis-
state, false and to lie." He cannot be relied upon and has zero
credibility in this matter!

Additional factual info about this SLUG can be found at:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.arch/msg/4bc6224b7bbc0219

And look at this goldmine: What is currently known about Mark
Thorson:

His current email address is ***@sonic.net which traces to
***@netcom.com
http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?doid=332012.565004

***@netcom.com traces to ***@cup.portal.com
http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/16.48.html#subj3.1

***@cup.portal.com traces to his middle name: robert
http://cypherpunks.venona.com/date/1992/11/msg00295.html

Mark Robert Thorson is near-sighted and wears glassess
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.astro/msg/7ce1003715ba45cb

Using another public database, I found:

1) Mark R. Thorson (DOB: August 1958) 12991 PIERCE RD, SARATOGA, CA
95070
http://www.google.com/maphp?hl=en&tab=wl&q=12991%20PIERCE%20RD,%20SAR...

2) Mark R. Thorson (DOB: March 1959), 19348 VIA CUESTA, RAMONA, CA
92065
http://www.google.com/maphp?hl=en&tab=wl&q=19348%20VIA%20CUESTA,%20RA...

3) Mark R. Thorson, 11579 WAY BOX ELDER, SAN DIEGO, CA 92127
http://www.google.com/maphp?hl=en&tab=wl&q=11579%20WAY%20BOX%20ELDER,...

Given his history, I believe that #1 listed above is Mark Robert
Thorson's likely Taliban hideout since it is close to San Jose, CA as
the other two locations are near San Diego, CA.

Other tidbits about LOWLIFE Mark Robert Thorson:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.arch/msg/4bc6224b7bbc0219
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/4bc6224b7b...
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.chem/msg/61e7bb4327df583c

n.b. Hey Mark Robert Thorson, are you still stupid enough to be
looking directly at the sun thru a peephole? What other peepholes are
you peering thru anyway?

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